Academy

[ANTEAGLE]

Full time 1-1

[Hazbaz]

Originally Posted by Steve in Phoenix

Yeah it's not on the schedule anymore this morning.

"Due to permission not being granted.."

Wonder whose permission they were expecting to get and didnt? Does it come from the opposition? These are Under 18's so there might be some rights around underage football? Or is it because there would be a 15 minute overlap with the PL game at 12.30 (Wolves-Liverpool)? I'm sure that hasnt been an issue before?

I must admit I wondered if it’d dreamed it because I was expecting to watch today, good to hear that others had seen it on the Palace TV schedule!

Really hope we keep the winning run going

[skinned eagle]

When the U18’s play on a Saturday at the Academy training ground is open to the public to watch?

Thanks.

[Steve in Phoenix]

Originally Posted by skinned eagle

When the U18’s play on a Saturday at the Academy training ground is open to the public to watch?

Thanks.

Pretty sure it's not open to the public, you're not going to be able to turn up and watch. There's been a lot of talk on here about Founder members were supposed to get access at some future point but I don't think it's happened yet. Someone will post with more info I'm sure.

[skinned eagle]

Thanks, I heard the same last season. Been to a few away games in the North West last season. Was hoping we would follow suit this season. Thanks again.

[Gazza2]

Originally Posted by skinned eagle

When the U18’s play on a Saturday at the Academy training ground is open to the public to watch?

Thanks.

pre covid, you could watch if you were a season ticket holder. Can't watch currently. Season Ticket holders may be allowed to watch after all building work completed. Work on acqua therapy centre behind schedule so won't be completed until sometime after Xmas. So, best case, is season ticket holders can watch from next season.

[orp pisshead1]

Originally Posted by Gazza2

pre covid, you could watch if you were a season ticket holder. Can't watch currently. Season Ticket holders may be allowed to watch after all building work completed. Work on acqua therapy centre behind schedule so won't be completed until sometime after Xmas. So, best case, is season ticket holders can watch from next season.

That cost the club a lot of money that acqua therapy centre

[Maidstoned Eagle]

Originally Posted by orp pisshead1

That cost the club a lot of money that acqua therapy centre

I'm sure its better than a new player for the first team.

[orp pisshead1]

Originally Posted by Maidstoned Eagle

I'm sure its better than a new player for the first team.

Lol but it will benefit the injured players and hopefully get them back to full fitness quicker.

[Ian Hart]

Originally Posted by Maidstoned Eagle

I'm sure its better than a new player for the first team.

Ah, but what if they had used that money to buy a new player for the first team, and that player got injured, and the doctor said that player urgently needs acqua therapy or his leg will fall off

Then you'd feel stupid, wouldn't you

[Gazza2]

Hydrotherapy centre I should have said lol. A neighbour of mine works for the company who've done most of the interior work at the Academy site. The last thing they are doing is the Hydrotherapy bit. It's not going to be finished as early as was first hoped / planned.

[Sirmatt]

What sort of team will we be putting out away to Wycombe tonight,..

[Norwich_Eagle]

Originally Posted by Sirmatt

What sort of team will we be putting out away to Wycombe tonight,..

It will be pretty much full strength, whatever that means at the moment. Last season we had:

v. Swindon: Whitworth, Addae, Grehan, Balmer, Watson, Ozoh, Wells-Morrison, Mooney, Omilabu, Gordon & Akinwale

v. Bristol Rovers: Whitworth, Rodney, Balmer, Grehan, Ozoh, Cadogan, Phillips, Omilabu, Watson, Ola-Adebomi & Gordon

v. Plymouth: Whitworth, Rodney, Watson, Grehan, Imray, Ozoh, Wells-Morrison, Omilabu, Phillips, Gordon & Akinwale

[Steve in Phoenix]

The U21's have conceded at least 2 goals in each of their last 5 games. Gonna be much tougher against Wycombe.

[Palace43]

Originally Posted by Norwich_Eagle

It will be pretty much full strength, whatever that means at the moment. Last season we had:

v. Swindon: Whitworth, Addae, Grehan, Balmer, Watson, Ozoh, Wells-Morrison, Mooney, Omilabu, Gordon & Akinwale

v. Bristol Rovers: Whitworth, Rodney, Balmer, Grehan, Ozoh, Cadogan, Phillips, Omilabu, Watson, Ola-Adebomi & Gordon

v. Plymouth: Whitworth, Rodney, Watson, Grehan, Imray, Ozoh, Wells-Morrison, Omilabu, Phillips, Gordon & Akinwale

Wonder if they'll bring some ringers who need game time?

Reckon it could be something like:

Whitworth, Imray, Sheridan, Grehan, Watson, Ozoh, Devenney, JRS, Raymond, Ebiowei, Ola-Adebomi

The U21s can also name 7 subs in this game, and considering in the last game they could only name 4, getting enough players together for this may be tough! Maybe a bench of:

Izquierdo, Francis, Kporha, Austin, Mustapha, Umeh, Mathurin

The players that didn't feature in the last line up against Middlesborough:

Adaramola, V. Williams, Siddik, Reid, Wells-Morrison, Rodney, Eze, Nascimento, Akinwale

What injury crisis?

[AJ]

Originally Posted by Palace43

Wonder if they'll bring some ringers who need game time?

Reckon it could be something like:

Whitworth, Imray, Sheridan, Grehan, Watson, Ozoh, Devenney, JRS, Raymond, Ebiowei, Ola-Adebomi

The U21s can also name 7 subs in this game, and considering in the last game they could only name 4, getting enough players together for this may be tough! Maybe a bench of:

Izquierdo, Francis, Kporha, Austin, Mustapha, Umeh, Mathurin

The players that didn't feature in the last line up against Middlesborough:

Adaramola, V. Williams, Siddik, Reid, Wells-Morrison, Rodney, Eze, Nascimento, Akinwale

What injury crisis?

I think it will be very tough as the u21s are a very young side and it will be men v boys (literally). I don't think any of the players like JRS and Ebowei will be included as we need them for the first team!

[Norwich_Eagle]

Yeah while it would be nice for the minutes under JRS and Ebiowei I just don't think we can afford them to potentially get on and get injured.

As a side note is there an update on Ferguson's return?

[Palace43]

Good points well made but I don't see the benefit of them sitting on the first team bench and not getting minutes. This could potentially be seen as a warm up game for the EFL cup game against Man Utd for the likes of JRS and Ebiowei and potentially even Jairo and Ahamada.

If neither of the former 2 I mention play, and there's no other returnees from injury, I imagine it'll be Mathurin and Umeh to start with probably Derry and Marsh to step up to the bench?

Originally Posted by Norwich_Eagle

As a side note is there an update on Ferguson's return?

I haven't seen anything whatsoever.

[Norwich_Eagle]

Originally Posted by Palace43

Good points well made but I don't see the benefit of them sitting on the first team bench and not getting minutes. This could potentially be seen as a warm up game for the EFL cup game against Man Utd for the likes of JRS and Ebiowei and potentially even Jairo and Ahamada.

If neither of the former 2 I mention play, and there's no other returnees from injury, I imagine it'll be Mathurin and Umeh to start with probably Derry and Marsh to step up to the bench?



I haven't seen anything whatsoever.

That is the million dollar question really, is it better for their development or not? I tend to agree with you that minutes under the belt, especially in a professional match is better than nothing.

I found out yesterday - not that this is specifically relevant - that the Football Manager algorithms for your under 21 wonderkids favours training and getting odd minutes in first team football.

I think they looked at - training and playing for youth teams, training with first team and playing for youth teams and then training and playing odd minutes for the first team.

As long as they are playing 20 or more minutes about once a month they will develop at a much quicker rate than the other two options. Also feels counter-intuitive to me

[Sirmatt]

The U21s is a little like the old Reserves back in the day,injured players coming back or up and coming kids were always given game time in the second strings this when squads were a lot thinner so surely we have to use these games as further footballing game time for players on the cusp of the first team,JRS and ME need minutes in there legs,JRS seems a complete waste if he's not going to play this season should be out in the Championship but we all know we're so light on numbers he was needed here..