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We were flying when he took over, absolutely flying and he lef alone to begin with but as soon as he started tweaking things we got worse and worse and only just scrapped into the play offs.

I reckon if Dougie had stayed we would have got into the play offs super easily probably coming 3rd or 4th.

However, Holloway's experience in the play offs was critical. He got it completely right, for those three key games I will always be grateful.

I am not sure Dougie would have got us up
Agree with this. We also know that the pressure is quite different when you get down to that run-in, especially with a squad with very few players who had been in such territory before. In fact it's pure fantasy and wishful thinking.

Who knows what would have happened if Dougie stayed but the argument we would have definitely gone up automatically is very weak considering we were 'only' 4th when he left and less than a quarter of the season had been played.

The rest of his management career doesn't suggest he was particularly likely to maintain the form from those 7 or 8 games across the whole seasons. Indeed very, very few teams can. Especially in the topsy turvy Championship.

Lots of teams go through great runs for that amount of time in a Championship season, very few maintain it for another 7 or 8, let alone 35 games.

That early season form was a surprise to us and probably to our opponents too. It probably got tougher as teams became more aware and clued in to our system and threat. And that is likely to have happened whoever the manager was.

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Please correct my good self if you think I am wrong,but there seems to be a growing sense that "Wor Roy" will be hanging up his "Sure" coat at the end of this season.
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Agree with this. We also know that the pressure is quite different when you get down to that run-in, especially with a squad with very few players who had been in such territory before. In fact it's pure fantasy and wishful thinking.

Who knows what would have happened if Dougie stayed but the argument we would have definitely gone up automatically is very weak considering we were 'only' 4th when he left and less than a quarter of the season had been played.

The rest of his management career doesn't suggest he was particularly likely to maintain the form from those 7 or 8 games across the whole seasons. Indeed very, very few teams can. Especially in the topsy turvy Championship.

Lots of teams go through great runs for that amount of time in a Championship season, very few maintain it for another 7 or 8, let alone 35 games.

That early season form was a surprise to us and probably to our opponents too. It probably got tougher as teams became more aware and clued in to our system and threat. And that is likely to have happened whoever the manager was.
After leaving Dougie won 14 games and drew 11 (53 points) that season at Bolton

By comparison, Holloway won 10 and drew 12 (42 points) with a far better squad and a team on top form when he took over

Nothing there to suggest Dougie wouldn’t have been able to maintain the momentum and form had he stayed
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After leaving Dougie won 14 games and drew 11 (53 points) that season at Bolton

By comparison, Holloway won 10 and drew 12 (42 points) with a far better squad and a team on top form when he took over

Nothing there to suggest Dougie wouldn’t have been able to maintain the momentum and form had he stayed
I don't disagree about Holloway, but are you sure we had a better squad than Bolton ATM ? They had just been relegated from the Prem, after many years and most people had them as one of the pre season favourites. They were obviously under achieving when DF took over and you could argue they should improve, under any competent Manager.
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Palace were over achieving at the point that Freedman left. After getting promoted, we all said that it was by far the weakest Palace squad to win promotion.
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After leaving Dougie won 14 games and drew 11 (53 points) that season at Bolton

By comparison, Holloway won 10 and drew 12 (42 points) with a far better squad and a team on top form when he took over

Nothing there to suggest Dougie wouldn’t have been able to maintain the momentum and form had he stayed
It's a totally different thing maintaining it with one side than a different one.

But even he had kept us where he left us, which would have been a considerable achievement, then we would have finished 4th. In the play-offs.

I have doubts he would have done as good a job as Holloway in the play-offs - IH's experience of them helped.

I'm not sure I agree we had a far better squad either.

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