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Old 23-07-2021, 12:53 PM
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He last played in the championship when he was 20 as a player on loan.
Yeah, but apart from that....
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Old 23-07-2021, 01:14 PM
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This. We squeezed the last bit of juice from him. Time to let him go.
Hard to replace Cahill and Dann's experience.
I hope we have someone with some leadership lined up.

Roy's teams have shown us what it's worth over the past 4 years.
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Old 23-07-2021, 01:21 PM
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Hard to replace Cahill and Dann's experience.
I hope we have someone with some leadership lined up.

Roy's teams have shown us what it's worth over the past 4 years.
Depends if you want to replace them like for like?

Cahill has what 18 years in the Premier League? Dann has 10. Even if we got two players to get 28 years of experience you are immediately looking at two players at least of 32 years of age.

If you want two defenders who have "just" got 4 or 5 seasons in the top flight each then that is much more manageable.

The simple fact is we know that he is great for the club and for the younger players coming through, same as Dann. Which is why deals were offered but, we also know that we need to plan long-term now if they have to be replaced and we cannot - simply cannot break the bank in keeping them.
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Old 23-07-2021, 01:29 PM
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Depends if you want to replace them like for like?

Cahill has what 18 years in the Premier League? Dann has 10. Even if we got two players to get 28 years of experience you are immediately looking at two players at least of 32 years of age.

If you want two defenders who have "just" got 4 or 5 seasons in the top flight each then that is much more manageable.

The simple fact is we know that he is great for the club and for the younger players coming through, same as Dann. Which is why deals were offered but, we also know that we need to plan long-term now if they have to be replaced and we cannot - simply cannot break the bank in keeping them.
Amazing how you can cut data these days.

Fact remains, it's hard to get characters like this in the dressing room who know what they're doing.
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You are having a laugh.
Not at all, I was referring to his time with us not his entire career. The fact is he is well past his prime and no longer has the legs to recover. So it seems pointless spending money on large salaries for players that were once good.
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Amazing how you can cut data these days.

Fact remains, it's hard to get characters like this in the dressing room who know what they're doing.
I think it helped that my Mum was a High School Maths Teacher and I went through school when PC's really started becoming a thing.
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We should start grooming experienced players with leadership ability into the coaching ranks rather than let them leave the Palace system.
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Amazing how you can cut data these days.

Fact remains, it's hard to get characters like this in the dressing room who know what they're doing.
That sums Cahill and Dann up, all the experience and know what to do, but their legs cant get them there in time.

Even Bartley at 30 is an upgrade on them now.
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We should start grooming experienced players with leadership ability into the coaching ranks rather than let them leave the Palace system.
Paddy McCarthy was groomed for a coaching position towards the end of his career and by all accounts is now an excellent development coach. Derry went away to try management & coaching elsewhere and came back to the U21s, where he also seems to be doing pretty well.

So I don't think it's something we need to 'start' doing, and we can't keep everyone in the system - there are only so many coaching positions to fill.
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Paddy McCarthy was groomed for a coaching position towards the end of his career and by all accounts is now an excellent development coach. Derry went away to try management & coaching elsewhere and came back to the U21s, where he also seems to be doing pretty well.

So I don't think it's something we need to 'start' doing, and we can't keep everyone in the system - there are only so many coaching positions to fill.
Plus Cahill *may* have one more year in him. For one of the promoted teams or in the championship / SPL
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Anyone heard about him dong pre-season training at another club? No sign of him traning at Palace is there....
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He declined to come back to Palace for pre-season so guess he's training privately while his agent works the phones.
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That sums Cahill and Dann up, all the experience and know what to do, but their legs cant get them there in time.

Even Bartley at 30 is an upgrade on them now.
Bartley wouldn’t be an upgrade if they were in wheelchairs


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